discovered You discover math. You find out that if you have one thing and you get another thing, you now have two things. you don't invent and decide how many things u get when you have one and add another. However - numbers are invented. numbers, like time are man's way of visualizing things that dont exist. Numbers dont exist and u cant discover something that doesnt exist. Still don't believe me? Fine - what is a two? can you show me one? no u cant. its an abstract concept that refers to something, it is itself NOT a thing
Hm. I like the idea of seperating math and numbers.
But then isn't the idea of math totally dependent on the concept of numbers? I just have a hard time going from- "I have one cow, you have two, therefore together we have three cows" to "the theory of relativity".
I'm not sure what the theory of relativity has to do with addition... theres not even addition in it, unless u break down multiplication into multiples of addition... Your ability to separate Math and Numbers may rely on your personal integration with Math. Perhaps the key to separating them is to find some math that doesnt appear to use numbers. I thought about this for a few minutes, but I can't think of any good examples... that doesnt mean they dont exist of course...
How bout this... say you have a pile of 8 tires. You have no concept of numbers and you don't know theres 8 tires, just that you have some tires. You know that cars use tires, and you have the ability to put the tires on a car. You start putting tires on your car until the car is full of tires, you now have 4 tires left but all you see is "less tires". You have actually subtracted 4 tires from the pile and have a difference of 4. You have just done math, without the numbers. Therefore I say that doing math does not require knowledge of numbers - So to that person, math is not dependent on numbers. Upon further reading of your comment, I think u have misspoken. I never said that math did not require the concept of numbers. Math indeed is nothing without numbers. Math without numbers is like a Plinko board without a Plinko chip. It just sits there, waiting to do something, but it cant. Whether you use numbers which represent actual things, or letters as variables representing numbers which represent actual things, math is all a big abstraction. It is just a set of rules to confuse jocks and get nerds beaten up
Ha! Someone got the liminal reference, awesome! I will never remember the colors I used, they're all SO similar. It was a purple/yellowy one, a rainbowy one, a mostly reddish/orange one and a blue/green one. I alternated them every couple of rows like HelloYarn did. It was super fun!
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You discover math. You find out that if you have one thing and you get another thing, you now have two things. you don't invent and decide how many things u get when you have one and add another.
However - numbers are invented.
numbers, like time are man's way of visualizing things that dont exist. Numbers dont exist and u cant discover something that doesnt exist.
Still don't believe me? Fine - what is a two? can you show me one? no u cant. its an abstract concept that refers to something, it is itself NOT a thing
Hm. I like the idea of seperating math and numbers.
But then isn't the idea of math totally dependent on the concept of numbers? I just have a hard time going from- "I have one cow, you have two, therefore together we have three cows" to "the theory of relativity".
I'm not sure what the theory of relativity has to do with addition... theres not even addition in it, unless u break down multiplication into multiples of addition...
Your ability to separate Math and Numbers may rely on your personal integration with Math.
Perhaps the key to separating them is to find some math that doesnt appear to use numbers.
I thought about this for a few minutes, but I can't think of any good examples... that doesnt mean they dont exist of course...
How bout this... say you have a pile of 8 tires. You have no concept of numbers and you don't know theres 8 tires, just that you have some tires. You know that cars use tires, and you have the ability to put the tires on a car.
You start putting tires on your car until the car is full of tires, you now have 4 tires left but all you see is "less tires". You have actually subtracted 4 tires from the pile and have a difference of 4. You have just done math, without the numbers.
Therefore I say that doing math does not require knowledge of numbers - So to that person, math is not dependent on numbers.
Upon further reading of your comment, I think u have misspoken. I never said that math did not require the concept of numbers. Math indeed is nothing without numbers.
Math without numbers is like a Plinko board without a Plinko chip. It just sits there, waiting to do something, but it cant.
Whether you use numbers which represent actual things, or letters as variables representing numbers which represent actual things, math is all a big abstraction. It is just a set of rules to confuse jocks and get nerds beaten up
baha, i confused u ftw
Plinko?
I hate math.
How can you be a college student and not know what Plinko is?
Isnt that on the entrance exam or something?!
Next you'll be saying you don't know who Rod Roddy is
I never said I don't know what Plinko is.
It was simply that using plinko to explain math was...different.
You get points for originality though.
Ha! Someone got the liminal reference, awesome! I will never remember the colors I used, they're all SO similar. It was a purple/yellowy one, a rainbowy one, a mostly reddish/orange one and a blue/green one. I alternated them every couple of rows like HelloYarn did. It was super fun!
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